Re: Government churches should be constitutionally rabid

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (ambrose searle) wrote:

>:|[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>:|> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ambrose searle AKA richard gardiner) wrote:
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>:|> >:|The ACLU is about as neutral an organization as the 700 Club, and
>:|> >:|Buckeye regularly condemns anyone with associations with the 700 club
>:|> >:|on the grounds that there is an agenda.
>:|> 
>:|> Ahhh, now he is adopting another standard Right Wing, Ultra Conservative,
>:|> Libbertarian and/or Religious Right sound bite, buzz slogan, troll line in
>:|> hopes of suckering someone into playing with him. It must be getting a bit
>:|> frustrating, no one is walking into his little traps so he can play like he
>:|> likes.
>:|> 
>:|> The ACLU is and has been a standard target of the Right Wing, Ultra
>:|> Conservative, Libbertarian and/or Religious Right for some time now.
>:|> I can go to the book store at Regent U almost any month and find at least
>:|> one book there attacking the ACLU 
>:|
>:|Pat Robertson has been a standard target of the Left Wing, Ultra
>:|Liberal, Radical, and/or Atheist wackos for some time now. One can
>:|find the ACLU routinely attacking Robertson and his ACLJ, Jay Sekulow,
>:|et al.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] (ambrose searle AKA richard gardiner) wrote:

>:|The ACLU is about as neutral an organization as the 700 Club, and
>:|Buckeye regularly condemns anyone with associations with the 700 club
>:|on the grounds that there is an agenda.

Ahhh, now he is adopting another standard Right Wing, Ultra Conservative,
Libbertarian and/or Religious Right sound bite, buzz slogan, troll line in
hopes of suckering someone into playing with him. It must be getting a bit
frustrating, no one is walking into his little traps so he can play like he
likes.

The ACLU is and has been a standard target of the Right Wing, Ultra
Conservative, Libbertarian and/or Religious Right for some time now.
I can go to the book store at Regent U almost any month and find at least
one book there attacking the ACLU 

Here is one I bought there a couple years ago

ACLU The Devil's Advocate, The Seduction of Civil Liberties in America, F.
LaGard Smith

FROM THE BACK COVER:
        THE ACLU
Champion of Civil Liberties or Destroyer of

America's Virtue?

Over the past 75 years, the American Civil Liberties
Union has gained both admiration and contempt as the nation's foremost
civil liberties organization and legal arm of the liberal-Left. Dissension
even within its own ranks marks a growing concern that the ACLU has been
taken over by a new generation of activists who are willing to abandon the
ACLU's commitment to civil liberties for the sake of special-interest
politics.

But are the problems deeper than power struggles within the ACLU itself?
Has the ACLU ever truly shed its pro-socialist, anti-democratic beginnings?
Will the ACLU's tortured defense of kiddy porn eventually undermine its
commitment to free speech? Can the ACLU seriously deny that it is
anti-religious and anti-family?

In its support of abortion, pornography, and special rights for
homosexuals, one question looms larger than ever: Does the ACLU still play
an honorable role as devil's advocate in the defense of freedom, or has the
ACLU betrayed even its own mission and truly become an advocate for the
Devil?

In ACLU-The Devil's Advocate, Smith serves up a hard-hitting, insightful
critique of the policies and philosophy of the ACLU and the powerful role
it plays in America's cultural war. Taking a close look at the wider
liberal-Left agenda, Smith explores the moral context in which battles over
issues like free speech, religious liberty, and sexual expression are being
fought.

It's not just a cultural war, Smith concludes, but a far-flung battle
between the forces of good and evil, in which the American Civil Liberties
Union has given up the moral high ground for patently unworthy causes, and
thereby put at risk the very civil liberties it has sworn to defend.

FROM THE INSIDE FLYLEAF

Professor Smith has done it again! Both informative and controversial,
ACLU-The Devil's Advocate is a fast-paced, provocative view of the ACLU,
and is a "must read" for anyone concerned with the ACLU's agenda. Jay Alan
Sekulow Chief Counsel American Center for Law and Justice

F LaGard Smith's epical treatment of what the ACLU really is and what it
has been up to in recent history, probes like a scalpel to reveal the
goals, the methods, and the motives of a threatening organization with
serious heart defects. D. James Kennedy President, Coral Ridge Ministries

Smith provides readers with a well-documented excursion through the history
and policies of the ACLU. Anyone puzzled by the judicial branch's attacks
on religion, traditional morality, parents' rights and law enforcement must
read ACLU- The Devil's Advocate. Beverly LaHaye President, Concerned Women
for America

At last, the ACLU is being called to task by a professional and scholarly
work. Smith's excellent expose proves we can never trust our First
Amendment freedoms to the ACLU, which now calls evil good and good evil.
Louis P. Sheldon Chairman, Traditional Values Coalition

Professor Smith demonstrates how a new generation of civil libertarians has
corrupted the ACLU's noble goals and suffocated liberty by attempting to
defend it in a moral vacuum. Smith pierces the hypocrisy of the ACLU when
it says that any thing goes-unless, of course, it has anything to do with
God. Michael Reagan Host, The Michael Reagan Talk Show
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The ACLU  is so disliked that Pat Robertson patterned his ACLJ on the ACLU
LOL

AMERICAN CIVIVL LIBERTIES UNION 
Defending the Bill of Rights
http://www.aclu.org/


The debate that will be on CNN at 8 PM Thursday Night is quite deligtful as
those are the right begins bashing the ACLu until it is pointed out how
often the ACLU is right there with Jay Alan Sekulaw joining him in some
lawsuit or other.    (grin) 
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Now for Ambrose Searle AKA Richard Gardiner's rambling discourse I add
this:  

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[as Gray Shockley said:]
 (Your "opinion" is not an  adequate citation.)
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 "Dave Thompson" said to another but it can be applied to Ambrose Searle
AKA Richard Gardiner as well
Ummmm, you are a historical troll that has been posting this dreck for a
while now. It doesn't matter if you stopped for a while or not. None of
your posts are new, they're just the same thing you've posted before and
have been shown to be baseless. You obviously don't like it when you've
been caught right in the beginning. I'm sure it won't stop you but at least
it serves notice to others that aren't familiar with you who they are
dealing with.
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Take anything that Ambrose Searle aka Richard Gardiner types with a grain
of salt. As he has demonstrated time and time again in the past of several
years ago, the past of a year and half ago and finally quite recently,
truth and him with regards to posting are not on speaking terms.

 MY EVIDENCE:

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Gardiner AKA Searle's church state posting history covering 3-99 to 902,
5/02 - 7/02 and this current year
http://makeashorterlink.com/?N16F22596
http://snurl.com/2ws8
http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q54F21596 (up to date as of 11/18/03)

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