Re: church/state seperation

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (ambrose searle) wrote:

>:|Carol Lee Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>:|> On 19 Nov 2003, ambrose searle wrote:
>:|> 
>:|> The courts had already determined that Moore had misbehaved.  Pryor gave
>:|> Moore an opportunity to confirm he would misbehave in the same way again
>:|> if and when he has the opportunity.
>:|
>:|Well, there is where you and I have certainly reached an impasse.
>:|
>:|I do not believe that saying "I believe in God" is "MISBEHAVIOR." For
>:|you to say that it is, as you have said above, is to say that you want
>:|a governmental establishment of atheism.
>:|
>:|I believe in the first amendment. I don't think religious
>:|establishments are proper, right, or American.
>:|
>:|It's too bad that you do.
>:|
>:|Searle

Moore's removal was becasue of:

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NOVEMBER 13, 2003

The court order from Alabama Court of the Judiciary removing Roy Moore from
the office of Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Alabama can be assessed
at:
http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/religion/inremoore111303opn.pdf

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NOVEMBER 3, 2003

Justices Reject Judge's Ten Commandments Appeal

By James Vicini

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court (news - web sites) rejected
on Monday appeals by Alabama's embattled top judge, Roy Moore, who has
waged an unsuccessful legal battle to display the Ten Commandments at the
state judicial building.

Without comment, the high court refused to hear two appeals by Moore, who
was suspended after refusing to comply with a federal judge's order in
August to remove the granite monument inscribed with the commandments
because it violated constitutional church-state separation.

The high court in recent years has let stand other U.S. appeals court
rulings that have barred the display of large granite monuments engraved
with the Ten Commandments on the grounds of state capitals.

UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT
Page 14
http://www.supremecourtus.gov/orders/courtorders/110303pzor.pdf

                        MANDAMUS DENIED
03-258 IN RE ROY S. MOORE, CHIEF JUSTICE, SUPREME COURT OF ALABAMA 
The petition for a writ of mandamus and/or prohibition is denied.

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AUGUST 20, 2003

U.S. SUPREME COURT DENIES REQUEST TO BLOCK REMOVAL OF ALABAMA COMMANDMENTS
DISPLAY 

The U.S. Supreme Court today turned away another last-ditch effort by
Alabama  Chief Justice Roy Moore to thwart a federal court order that he
remove his granite Ten Commandments monument from the state Judicial
Building.

This morning Moore filed a request with the Supreme Court to block U.S.
District Judge Myron Thompson's order that the granite Ten Commandments be
removed from the rotunda of the judicial building by Aug. 20. Thompson's
order indicated that if Moore refused to comply, he could be found in
contempt of court and substantial fines could be levied against the state.

In a one-sentence statement issued late today, the high court denied
Moore's request to nullify Thompson's order for removal of the monument.

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AUGUST 5, 2003

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. -- A federal judge ruled Tuesday that Chief Justice  Roy
Moore has 15 days to remove a Ten Commandments monument from the  Alabama
Judiciary Building. 

U.S. District Judge Myron Thompson said in his order that Moore now  must
remove the monument by Aug. 20. Moore is appealing Thompson's  ruling that
the monument in unconstitutional to the U.S. Supreme  Court. 

Final Judgment Glassroth vs Moore, August 5, 
2003: PDF, Word, WordPerfect 

Final Judgment in the Moore case may be viewed here: 
http://www.almd.uscourts.gov/Opinions/index_of_opinions.htm

http://www.nbc13.com/news/2383080/detail.html
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JULY 1, 2003

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U.S. 11th Circuit Court of Appeals
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GLASSROTH v. MOORE (07/01/03 - No. 02-16708, 02-16949)
A Ten Commandments monument installed in the Alabama State Judicial
Building by the Chief Judge of the Alabama Supreme Court violates the
Establishment Clause of the First Amendment, and the monument must be
removed.

To read the full text of this opinion, go to:[PDF File]
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data2/circs/11th/0216708p.pdf

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NOVEMBER 18, 2002

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IN THE DISTRICT COURT OF THE UNITED STATES FOR THE 
MIDDLE DISTRICT OF ALABAMA, NORTHERN DIVISION 
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GLASSROTH v.. MOORE, (11-18-02) CIVIL ACTION NO. 01-T-1268-N. 
 A Ten Commandments monument in the rotunda of Alabama's judicial building
violates the constitution's ban on government promotion of religion, a
federal judge ruled Monday.
U.S. District Judge Myron Thompson gave Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore,
who had had the 5,300-pound granite monument installed in the state
building, 30 days to remove it.

To read the full text of this opinion, go to:[PDF File]
http://www.almd.uscourts.gov/Opinions/index_of_opinions.htm
http://www.almd.uscourts.gov/Opinions/Glassroth%20v%20Moore%20Opinion.pdf
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All you game playing  spinning and ploys are irrelevant.


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Now for Ambrose Searle AKA Richard Gardiner's rambling discourse I add
this:  

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[as Gray Shockley said:]
 (Your "opinion" is not an  adequate citation.)
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 "Dave Thompson" said to another but it can be applied to Ambrose Searle
AKA Richard Gardiner as well
Ummmm, you are a historical troll that has been posting this dreck for a
while now. It doesn't matter if you stopped for a while or not. None of
your posts are new, they're just the same thing you've posted before and
have been shown to be baseless. You obviously don't like it when you've
been caught right in the beginning. I'm sure it won't stop you but at least
it serves notice to others that aren't familiar with you who they are
dealing with.
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Take anything that Ambrose Searle aka Richard Gardiner types with a grain
of salt. As he has demonstrated time and time again in the past of several
years ago, the past of a year and half ago and finally quite recently,
truth and him with regards to posting are not on speaking terms.

 MY EVIDENCE:

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Gardiner AKA Searle's church state posting history covering 3-99 to 902,
5/02 - 7/02 and this current year
http://makeashorterlink.com/?N16F22596
http://snurl.com/2ws8
http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q54F21596 (up to date as of 11/18/03)

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http://makeashorterlink.com/?I2AF32596
http://snurl.com/2wsb
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