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"Alberto Moreira" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Said "H. Reader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> :
>
>
> > What a couple of pansies. No wonder the image of educators
> >has been diminished over the past several decades. While you
> >boys are re-inventing the wheel, you might notice that your
> >students, as they flounder around to figure out your silly
> >rhymes and reasons, view you as barely tolerable twits.
>
> Wrong. Bob's not a teacher, and I can show you email after email of my
> students praising my teaching and thanking me.
>
> >Students want clarity and decisiveness. They want
> >their performances plainly and fairly measured.
>
> Wrong. Most students prefer not to be evaluated, and if there's got to
> be an evaluation, they want it to be risk-free so that they can know
> upfront the end result. They also want it to be easy-ramped, so that
> they don't have to apply too much time or energy to it.
>
> >They want measured, sensible steps and the time and
> >tools to accomplish them.
>
> Wrong. Most students would rather be partying,
That's probably true of many people under many circumstances,
but we're discussing how to teach a class.
> and measured steps are
> a consequence of the material being learned and not of what students
> want.
A "consequence?" Also, material is structured by the teacher;
it doesn't present itself.
> >The touchy feely flacidity of
> >poorly structured experimentation is not
> >what they want.
>
> I challenge you to come to my class and call it "touchy-feely" at the
> end of it. But hey, you can try.
>
> >You boys are viewed
> >either as flaky easy graders or a disasters
> >to be avoided. You'd do better at
> >real estate or wood chopping. Pick one.
>
> I'll let you pick those, looks like you have some experience.
I admit to having bought real estate and to having chopper
wood, but never professionally.
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