Re: TOBS: Public Schools Science Education: What Biology teachers are forced to teach

David Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> In alt.talk.creationism, "jabriol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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> >>> >look up the guidelines for teaching evolution... ?
> >> >they even have the proper defintion wrong.
> >>
> >> Please provide references to support your claims.
> >
> >do a google search on "Kronk"". we had a conversation on educational
> >material used in high schools. I gave him the name of the publication used
> >in my school district, and he posted guideline used by science teacher in
> >the united states. He had some comments and concerns...
> >
> >or ask any biology teacher.
> 
> So you don't have an appropriate reference that actually supports what
> you claim. Okay.
> 
>

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some people are just plain lazy, here you go...

On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 21:43:17 GMT, "jabriol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

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>"Kronk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>> On 17 Sep 2003 04:10:45 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JaBrIoL) wrote:
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>> >Kronk,
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>> >name of the biology publication by Prentince-hall:
>> >Biology by Miller/levine  2002 edition Pag3 366-467
>> >
>> >even the defintion of evolution is not correct.
>> >
>> >this is used in camden county vocational tech.
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>> I don't have a copy of this book, but I'll see if the local library
>> has one.
>>
>> I see the authors have a website for feedback at:
>>
>> http://biocrs.biomed.brown.edu/Elephant%20stuff/Mailroom.html
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>> If I can find a copy of the book and if it looks like their definition
>> is not in compliance with the guidelines set by the National Academy
>> of Sciences, I'll write them to see what can be done to remedy that.
>>
>> Kronk
>>
>
>where can I find these guidelines?

Whole guidelines:
http://www.nap.edu/catalog/5787.html

Pertaining to evolution:
http://books.nap.edu/html/evolution98/evol4.html

General working definition given in the guidelines:

"Evolution is a series of changes, some gradual and some sporadic,
that accounts for the present form and function of objects, organisms,
and natural and designed systems."

Personally, I would not have limited it to accounting to present
forms.

"The general idea of evolution is that the present arises from
materials and forms of the past."

I'm guessing they are using a very broad interpretation of
"materials".

"Although evolution is most commonly associated with the biological
theory explaining the process of descent with modification of
organisms from common ancestors, evolution also describes changes in
the universe."

Okay, frankly I have no idea where they are going with that "changes
in the universe" bit.  I suspect that they have had to make the
concept of evolution rather vague and general in order to render it
acceptable to the general public.

Kronk