Re: AUTISM RELATED TO CIRCUMCISION IN THE U.S.A..

Say not the Struggle nought Availeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL 
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> He has a point.
> 
> By exaggeration, he/she has shown that those ascribing autism to an 
> event that occurs with everyone, ie vacinations, is without foundation,

Something that happens to most everyone can still be a factor in a
disease that develops in only a few of them.  Like sunlight & skin
cancer.
 
> but cannot be disproved by statistics.
> 
> Circumcision is necessarily limited to males in the west and israel.

Says who?
 
> How do these numbers of autism compare in other countries?
> 
> What if, there is a statisically significant difference?
> 
> It is (stupid) questions like this that sometimes lead to discoveries.

I don't think it's a stupid question at all.

> 
> jerry
> 
> J47 wrote:
> 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hugh Young) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > 
> >>On 23 Oct 2003 22:59:03 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lucky Skinman)
> >>said:
> >>
> >>
> >>>By using simple logic in analyzing the matter, it can be suspected
> >>>that autism could be related to the imposition of the practice of
> >>>infant circumcision, and such an observation could be made if a
> >>>pattern was found which indicated a substantially greater number of
> >>>circumcised boys in the United States of America are victims of autism
> >>>than are little girls.
> >>
> >>It would be better to compare circumcised boys with intact boys, since
> >>the greater tendency of boys than girls to autism is (I think*) world
> >>wide.
> > 
> > 
> > Actually, a more interesting question is does autism vary by country
> > in the same way that circ rates vary.  Infant circumcision of males
> > predominates in the USA and Israel, but not elsewhere.  One source of
> > autism rates by county is a recent presentation made by the staff of
> > the CDC, which can be found at
> > http://www.autismone.org/proceedings/AutismOne5-03final.pdf
> > 
> > This data shows that autism rates are rising over time, but different
> > diagnostic criteria have also been introduced. If we look at the more
> > recent results based on DSM III-R, DSM-IV or ICD-10, and sum up the
> > numbers from these studies, the ratio of males to females is 4.0 to 1
> > in the USA, and 2.4 in the rest of the world. If you search pubmed,
> > there is a study by Davidovitch et al published in 2001 that shows a
> > rate of 4.2 to one in Israel.
> > 
> > Oxygen saturation is lowered during infant circumcision (search oxygen
> > and circumcision in PubMed). Perhaps autism is just another form of
> > cerebral palsy caused by reduced oxygen and increased CO2. If so, this
> > will certainly be a mother lode for malpractice lawyers in the USA.