Re: Dennis was Re: U.N. rules Canada should ban spanking

Dennis Hancock wrote:

> I don't even have a problem with your decision to use other methods on your
> children, and in fact have stated many times that most parents do attempt
> many different methods and find what works for THEIR child.

Works for their child? You mean what "works for them."

I seem to recall asking you what you mean by "works." I never did see an answer.

Lot's of things may "work" if compliance to your every demand, or blind
obedience is your only objective. Is that your only concern? Now that you're the
adult, do you mean by "works," "finally getting your way with others - namely
children?" I have greater concern for children's healthy emotional development
than what "works" to make life easier for parents. Why is this so far beyond
your grasp?

> and quite
> often, use different methods for different siblins.

Why do so many, like you, decide that abuse works, and convince yourself that it
isn't really abuse?

> My whole problem with Kane is that he is attempting to portray ANYONE who
> uses any sort of physical discipline on their children as a monster who
> abuses children,

How are you able to accept that physical discipline is >>not<< abuse? What logic
do you use to convince yourself that it's okay to hurt children in ways that are
illegal to use on adults? Do you honestly believe there is no affect from
punitively inflicted pain on children, upon their young developing emotions?

> and without that, his logic falls apart, which is why he
> refuses to accept any definitions given to him.

You mean definitions you create to give yourself the illusion that hurting young
children is somehow good and has no damaging effects?

> He cannot understand that many parents use different levels of both positive
> and negative reinforcement on their children until they hopefully come up
> with what works.  I tire of his nonsense and after reading this group of
> posts, will most assuredly filter his name out of my reading list and let
> him continue his rantings and ravings.

You may get that way with me, too. There are real reasons (rooted in your own
painful childhood) why you want to deny the truth about the harmfulness of
hurting children in the name of disciple. It's simply too painful to bear.
Having people point your head at the truth and make you see it must simply be
too much of an overload.

-Jerry-