Re: Government churches should be constitutionally rabid

On 24 Nov 2003, ambrose searle wrote:

> > > They wouldn't act as if having an abortion is every woman's duty.

> > That is really silly.  Can you prove that nonsensical charge?

> Just as quickly as you can prove the charge that Judge Moore wishes to
> institute an establishment of Christianity.

Was that the charge against him, or are you making it up?

http://www.almd.uscourts.gov/Opinions/Glassroth%20v%20Moore%20Opinion.pdf

Read it and get back to us.


> > > They wouldn't act as if protection of child pornography is what
> > > Madison had in mind when he formulated the first amendment.

> > Freedom of expression protects a lot of ideas with which I disagree.

> The question is whether Madison & co. considered Child Porn to be what
> they had in mind when the first amendment was drafted.

Really?

I don't think so.

> Dershowitz can defend O.J. and Michael Jackson all day long on the
> basis of "civil rights," but the common citizen sees the ludicracy of
> it.

If Dershowitz defends someone, it is because it is part of the legal
system to consider someone innocent until proven guilty.

Everyone has a right to council no matter how sleazy or nasty they may be.

> > I am sure that the OJ case is not the only time someone who is probably
> > guilty as sin got off.

> You're falling out of step with the ACLU. You're supposed to say "O.J.
> was framed by the racist white male."

A referrent for that?

> > > They wouldn't align themselves so faithfully in step with other
> > > organizations with political agendas: the NEA, the Democratic National
> > > Committee, American Atheists, etc.

> > And the Nazis ???

> Are you saying that the ACLU is aligned with the Nazis?? Please let
> them know.

They have defended Nazis.

By your reasoning they are "aligned with" anyone whom they have
represented.

That is just plain nuts.

> > > If you want to go ahead and assert that the ACLU is an objective,
> > > neutral, non-political, unbiased organization, go ahead and parade
> > > your brainlessness.

> > I think they effectively protect civil rights.

> > > The bulk of society knows better.

> > I think you are full of crap.

> Even LeChevalier agrees with the bulk of society: the ACLU is not
> neutral.

They come down on the side of civil rights every time that I know of.