Re: Government churches should be constitutionally rabid

Carol Lee Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> On 21 Nov 2003, ambrose searle wrote:
> 
> [JAL wrote]
> > > Your standard ploy here is to try and attack the source, be it a web site
> > > or the one posting or in some cases even a scholar.
>  
> > My my my. Is little Allison pouting because someone turns his own
> > stock and trade against him.
>  
> > Who is the loudest attacker of David Barton on the web? Hint look in
> > the mirror. Who has laid into James Hutson (at the LOC), D. James
> > Kennedy, Gary Amos, Harold Berman, Eidsmoe, Robertson, Dreisbach,
> > Smylie, etc., ad nauseum.
> 
> Have those individuals been separated from their ideas, or is it really
> their ideas which have been criticized?

By and large, what one sees in these newsgroups is name-calling and
insults. Genetic fallacies abound.

> Their ideas need to be "laid into."

Be my guest.

> > People are free to check my observations about your scholars:
> > Dershowitz, Semonche, etc. and see if they have the ACLU associations
> > I claim.
> 
> So what if they have ACLU associations?  Many people have ACLU
> associations.

The ACLU is about as neutral an organization as the 700 Club, and
Buckeye regularly condemns anyone with associations with the 700 club
on the grounds that there is an agenda.

The ACLU has a clear agenda.

> I should hope your "observations" are not "about ... scholars," but about
> their opinions and ideas.

In the case of those who are ACLU darlings, the observations are about
their agendas which bias their "research." Allison is a prime example
of that phenomenon. He is not an objective, sober, thinker. He has a
mission and he only gravitates toward any evidence that supports his
agenda. He runs from anything that counters it.

A true scholar has to follow the evidence whereever it leads, even if
it nullifies the hypothesis.

> > I will hand it to Dershowitz: his is a fine trial lawyer. He played a
> > great role in getting O.J. off the hook; just like he sells a bill of
> > goods in the church/state arena.
> 
> Examples?

Watch the debate on C-SPAN Sunday night.