Re: Government schools should be constitutionally banned

"rex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>:|It is very telling the parts you leave out. so I will repeat them.  

You are right, I leave out the wild assed unsubstantiated claims. 
The soap boxing and ranting and ravings, you're right again. I leave all
that out.

>:|You know

You're right, I do know. I know you haven't established anything you have
said yet as being factual.

>:|that what you say is not true

I don't say things that I think aren't factual.

>:|("most Americans are satisfied with the government educational system in
>:|this country") 

They are. You have even been shown URLs to sites that go into detail on
this point, even been directed to an annual poll, etc. 

I can show you the results of voting for 30 years in over 20 states where
the voters shot down vouchers by a 2/3rds to 1/3rd margin. One of the
reasons being the voters didn't want to abandon the public schools system
and they felt vouchers would take money away from that school system. They
wanted to see improvements in the areas they perceived as weak but
otherwise felt the public schools were the way to continue.

What have you shown?


{snipped soap boxing]

>:|Of course they are "calling for the abandonment of such a system" 

Nope, no evidence of that, sorry.

>:|and those
>:|who aren't "calling" were of course educated in government schools, 

LOL, which was about 85 to 90% of all Americans  in the past 100 to 150
years or so.

Your statement above just shot down your own theory

You said:

>:|Of course they are "calling for the abandonment of such a system" 

 and 

>:|and those
>:|who aren't "calling" were of course educated in government schools, 

So we have, according to you some fraction of 10% to 15% 
that might be calling for the abandonment of the present system.  

Not very impressive

[snipped soap boxing, biased agenda preaching]


>:|> "rex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> had written:
>:|> >:|You remind me so much
>:|> >:|about what people like you said to every libertarian
>:|> >:|proposal from the people who wrote the Declaration of Independence, the
>:|> >:|U.S. Constitution and it's Bill of Rights.

[I said]
>:|> Your unsubstantiated claim is noted.

>:|It is not unsubstantiated.  

Sure it is.
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>:|There was opposition then, just as there is
>:|opposition today (here and in other parts of the world) to the separation of
>:|church and state, 

This means what with regards to this discussion?
BTW other parts of the world is irrelevant with regards to this discussion.

>:|the logic of which you also oppose in your refusal to
>:|follow for any other purpose, including government schools.

The above doesn't make sense

In that sentence we have the following:

BACKGROUND:

[You said]
>:|> >:|You remind me so much
>:|> >:|about what people like you said to every libertarian
>:|> >:|proposal from the people who wrote the Declaration of Independence, the
>:|> >:|U.S. Constitution and it's Bill of Rights.

[I said]
>:|> Your unsubstantiated claim is noted.

and we have this resulting:

[from you]
It is not unsubstantiated.  

There was opposition then, 
just as there is opposition today 
(here and in other parts of the world) 
to the separation of church and state, 
the logic of which 
you also oppose in your refusal 
to follow for any other purpose, 
including government schools.
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That must be a code, right?