Re: Frustration of 'doing' vs 'trying' (continued)

"white rabbit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> For me, success means growing in areas of my values for maximising my
> happiness daily.  Failure means increasing psyche death leading to
> physical death.
>
> Failure I do not want.  So how do I move towards success, eliminating
> failure, and live frustration free.  My answer is that 'frustration
> free' must be understood relatively and contextually to the bounds of
> the anticivilisation.

Lao Tsu says:

"Accept disgrace willingly.
Accept misfortune as the human condition.

What do you mean by 'Accept disgrace willingly'?
Accept being unimportant.
Do not be concerned with loss or gain.
This is called 'accepting disgrace willingly'.

What do you mean by 'Accept misfortune as the human condition"?
Misfortune comes from having a body.
Without a body, how could there be misfortune?

Surrender yourself humbly; then you can be trusted to care for all things.
Love the world as your own self; then you can truly care for all things."

> We can never be completely frustration free in the anticivilisation,
> nor can we live without 'trying'.

Yes, we can.  "Success" and "failure" are our own inventions.  They don't
exist outside of a particular mindset.

Once you can let go of "success" and "failure", you can eliminate
frustration and live without trying.

> The concept of 'doing without
> trying' points us in the direction of the supercivilisation when we
> are psychologically clear of self-dishonesties, laziness, and
> suppressions.

Your first concern should not be converting the infidels.  Your first
concern should be clearing up your own problem with frustration.

> For living now, successfully, we must strive to minimise frustrations
> via wide-scope understandings and applying lots of EFFORT in TRYING,
> until the amount of effortful trying reduces for each thing we want to
> learn, do, have, experience, create.

You can't climb out of a hole by digging yourself in more deeply.

> 'do, do not, there is no try' is cute, and a powerful concept to use
> as a tool, but it is only a tool.  Tools must be used to sharpen our
> wits, not mess them up.  Look beyond all boundaries, reach for
> transcendence, but not irrationally so.  Stay within the confines of
> self-honesty.  Find your golden mean... As I am 'trying' to 'do'.

To give up trying, you must not be afraid to die.