Frustration of 'doing' vs 'trying' (continued)

Following up on 
http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=431a1b4.0305050152.5eb06854%40posting.google.com&rnum=8&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dsupercivilisation%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26selm%3D431a1b4.0305050152.5eb06854%2540posting.google.com%26rnum%3D8

Tom illustrated the difference between doing vs trying nicely.  It is
still something to play with, for, I think 'trying' and 'frustration'
is good, necessary, important, and valuable.. atleast within the
bounds of the current anticivilisation.

Frustration I have indulged in a great deal.  Tom suggests letting go
of the lust of results, and instead doing the thing without regard to
success or failure.

I wonder if Kirby read Tom's reply, and what was made of it.

For me, success means growing in areas of my values for maximising my
happiness daily.  Failure means increasing psyche death leading to
physical death.

Failure I do not want.  So how do I move towards success, eliminating
failure, and live frustration free.  My answer is that 'frustration
free' must be understood relatively and contextually to the bounds of
the anticivilisation.

We can never be completely frustration free in the anticivilisation,
nor can we live without 'trying'.  The concept of 'doing without
trying' points us in the direction of the supercivilisation when we
are psychologically clear of self-dishonesties, laziness, and
suppressions.

For living now, successfully, we must strive to minimise frustrations
via wide-scope understandings and applying lots of EFFORT in TRYING,
until the amount of effortful trying reduces for each thing we want to
learn, do, have, experience, create.

'do, do not, there is no try' is cute, and a powerful concept to use
as a tool, but it is only a tool.  Tools must be used to sharpen our
wits, not mess them up.  Look beyond all boundaries, reach for
transcendence, but not irrationally so.  Stay within the confines of
self-honesty.  Find your golden mean... As I am 'trying' to 'do'.

Embededly yours,
- white rabbit
http://supercivilisation.net

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From: Tom ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Subject: Re: Core Aspects vs Physical Actions - my latest uncovering 
 
"Kirby Cook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> The "there is no try, only do or
> not do" is still a fuzzy concept to me.

It becomes much easier to appreciate when you let go of the lust of
result.

> I try and succeed, or try and fail.

Act without regard for whether you succeed or fail.  That's doing.

> When I do and do not, it's disconcerting, frustrating,
> irritating, and altogether unpleasant.

Then it's not yet art.  It's only practice.  Practice is always a
little
frustrating and unpleasant.