Re: The insolence of Office; Hoisting them on their own Petards

Merlin wrote:

> Jon Beaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 23:28:21 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Merlin) wrote:
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >>>Thanks to Dan Evans for his insightful and helpful information and to Merlin
> >>>for pointing out the 11th Amendment. This gives me a good starting place. Now
> >>>if I just can summon the stamina and resources to take on the state, that would
> >>>be a major victory.
> >>>
> >>>If someone would entertain a followup? Are there some states where it's easier
> >>>to sue than others? Mention was made of Penn. which has a law that allows this.
> >>>Does any of this depend to any degree on what Federal Circuit the state is
> >>>in?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>      It was Larry who cited the eleventh amendment, but he's a public
> >>      servant getting used to others taking credit for his work, so yer
> >>      welcome, troublemaker.
> >>
> >>      As for suing, your starting place is a lawyer, seriously, but as for
> >>      location you'll find that you can sue with equal facility in all
> >>      fifty US States.... except maybe its easier in Colorado where
> >>      they have one less lawyer clogging the courts than in other
> >>      places.... yet remember that your likelyhood of winning is
> >>      somewhat improved relative to the likelyhood of getting
> >>      yourself into a lot of trouble, in jurisdictions where you
> >>      actually have a viable case. So keep that in mind when
> >>      you talk to that lawyer. Good luck!
> >
> >Remember also that suing someone for the purpose of causing them
> >"trouble" is the classic abuse of process.
> >
> >- Jon Beaver
>
>         As our own Ken Smith discovered to his destruction.

  Uh, never mind that two courts of competent jurisdiction considered
said claim, and threw it out.  Facts like that never get in the way of the
Boy Beaver's defamatory remarks....

  But he sure hates being associated with JonBoy -- it's as if "Merlin's"
downright embarrassed.  (OC, if I were forced to admit that I had the
same genes as our JonBoy, I'd be pretty embarrassed, as well....)

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Subject: Merlin: Beaver's Baby Brother Bobby?
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Merlin wrote:
> "Larry Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>"Merlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
 
>>>Ken... these personal attacks against Jon and Larry
>>>are neither deserved or effective against them. They are
>>>only effective against you.
>>
>>Oh, baloney.   Neither of them have shown him the slightest courtesy and
>>neither have you.   And Larry is a puerile little prick with a mega-ego and
>>only a passable knowledge of law.   He will never be a Clarence Darrow or
>>Louis Nizer.

   [snip]

>>Beaver undertook to criticize Ken's cause, and in an unlawyerlike, vulgar
>>manner too.   I called him on his record, and he became evasive.   It is
>>relevant that he has no significant experience pursuing appeals if he
>>undertakes to rake Ken and Ken's causes over the coals.
>>
>>I don't see that any of the three of you have any honor, and you probably
>>would have sided against Zola and Dreyfus in the Dreyfus case.   Always
>>easier (and safer) to go with the flow, you know.
> 
>       I saw no 'unlawyerlike' behaviour or vulgarity  by Jon or Larry,
>       nor lack of courage or integrity. I've seen the opposite in them.

   Of course *YOU* wouldn't, Merlin.  That's because the evidence shows 
you to be a shill for the house.

   ("Merlin" isn't nearly as anonymous as he would like you to believe 
-- and I rather suspect you will be amused at where the evidence leads.

   Our friend Jon is the Beverly Sills of the Sierra foothills, and no 
his website (http://www.imagecomp.com/beaver/personal.htm), he proudly 
reveals that baby brother Robert had taken the CA bar and was awaiting 
the results.

   That's right.  Robert (not "Bob" or even "Bobby") Beaver.

   And what do we find on USENET?  One Robert Beaver (a.k.a., "Merlin") 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]), who presumably changed ISPs in the interim.

   When Robert Beaver was still using his real name in 1995, he openly 
identified himself in misc.legal.moderated as a law student.  Again, 
entirely consistent with Jon's webpage.  A later (and more intriguing) 
post (attached) explains why Robert adopted the "Merlin" handle.

   Granted, it might not be enough to convict O.J. in South Central, but 
  I suspect that everyone here can do the math.)


>       Their points were generally cogent, and both are clearly
>       men of principle. There is honor abundant in that.

   At this point, I would submit that neither Jon nor "Merlin" have the 
standing to wax poetic about honor or principle.  Merlin is obviously a 
shill for the house, and I find it unfathomable that Jon would not know 
of the true state of affairs.

   Honor?  Courage?  Integrity?  It would appear on the face of it that 
they are undiscovered countries for you, Merlin.

>       Your personal attacks are without just cause.

   From where I am sitting, it would appear you are uniquely unqualified 
to render a fair and impartial judgment on that point, "Merlin."  :)



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