Re: The insolence of Office; Hoisting them on their own Petards

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry) wrote:

>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>(Merlin) wrote:
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>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>>>Anyone know of any legal treatises or books on how to successfully sue, defeat
>>>or otherwise cause problems for evil state agencies. Most of us have dealt
>>>with some pinhead bureaurat in the wrong at one time or another. Most people
>>>just cave. I want to teach myself to fight them. I imagine this falls under
>>>the category of exceptions to immunity, defeating corrupt summary judgements
>>>and so on. Any tips appreciated. I am referring to instances in which a
>bureaucrat
>>>decides to lie thereby sending you up a false road, discriminate by denying
>>>you actions that are available to others, etc.
>>>
>>>
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>>        What! You want to sue our government?
>>        No doubt they discuss such things in a law book somewhere.
>>        But it just seems so... well, unpatriotic or something.
>>        Are you sure you should be allowed to do that?
>>
>>        -Merlin
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>For starters, read the eleventh amdendment. (Which I assumed you knew, Merlin :)
>)
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><http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment11/>

        Thanks,  Rightly cited.  The OP is in for some big fun now!
        (I knew they had discussed such things somewhere besides 
        Ex parte Young. hey!  :)

        Still, while no one likes evil state agencies or lying bureaucrats
        I was just a might      curious whether the OP had thought about 
        whether, notwithstanding the eleventh amendment,  it would 
        even be a sensible  idea to allow people to use our courts to
        "cause trouble" for the government every time a "bureaucrat 
        decides to lie".

        In other words, perhaps the OP's understanding of "how" 
        would be better advanced by  asking the OP to consider matters
        in the context of  "why"?

        -Merlin