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Re: have your rankings of favorite Meistersingers changed?



[from Geof. Riggs; not Eliz. H., my better half]

Andante teneramente wrote:
sorach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote


Now that Andante.com have released a re-mastered the Toscanini/VPO, have your rankings of favorite Meistersingers changed? Has there been a vast improvement in sound to warrant such a change?


Not for me. The sound leaves much to be desired. I'm glad I got the
Toscanini Meistersinger, but they are more an interesting and
enriching experience than a favourite recording.

I tend to think it may be a more central entry than that. Since I have had one of the so-so LP editions of this for years, it may be that the exhilarating improvement in the Andante CD has me more enthused than some others might be -- purely because the contrast drawn with any of the LP editions is so stark. There is, for the first time, real space and dynamic range in this recording, and I now find I can respond to it as if I were sitting right there in the auditorium rather than merely picking my way through a series of inchoate sounds. For its place in the overall discography, see below.

I'm not upto date with developments, but what about Abendroth & Kubelik? Are they getting any treatment in the near future?

--snip--


The Kubelik Meistersinger have recently appeared on the ARTS label.
There was a thread about it some weeks ago.

Part I (of III)


I concede I have not yet heard the Kubelik in this new ARTS pressing.
Apparently, though, the out-of-print CALIG was superior to the MYTO
pressing, which is the one I have.  As it is, the MYTO pressing has
always given me great satisfaction, while, at the same time, the
Kubelik's place in the discography may have been challenged in certain
respects by the ANDANTE Toscanini, but not in all (more below).

In any case, as a recording, the MYTO edition of the Kubelik is already
one of the most satisfying readings I know.  Kubelik's way with the
score captures the midsummer feel to perfection, IMO, and his principals
parallel this warm inviting approach to what is, after all, a comedy of
manners -- with heart.

Particularly welcome are the refulgent sounds of Gundula Janowitz and
Sandor Konya as Eva and Walther.  Brigitte Fassbaender's Magdalene is
not far behind them, and Unger still sounds almost as youthful a David
as in his earlier reading on Kempe's second recording (for EMI).  The
rest of the cast is certainly satisfying as well.

But to cut to the chase, while Stewart's Sachs is certainly strong and
musical and accords well with the human tenderness of Kubelik's other
principals, he does have a few moments of strain and unsteadiness that
may bother certain listeners.  I find my own responses to these very
occasional lapses vary somewhat depending on mood, concentration,
grouchiness....;-)  Also, I have to say that there are extended
sequences where Stewart is perfectly fine in every respect.  Pages and
pages of lively projection of one of the most likable characters in the
canon, IMO.  That counts for a lot.  But dipping into the
slightly-past-his-prime-but-still-musical Paul Schoeffler on the studio
Kna, for instance, reveals the extent to which Stewart is not quite as
comfortable in his own skin as a truly great Sachs (like a Schoeffler or
a Schorr) can be.

The Toscanini lineup has no such inequality, IMO.  The rest of the cast
may not be quite so consistent as Kubelik's, but the critical
Sachs/Eva/Walther trio of Hans Hermann Nissen/Maria Reining/Henk Noort
is simply so consistently strong and sure in the Toscanini and
Toscanini's own conducting complements that strength to such a degree
(although I do prefer Kubelik here by just a tad) that the overall
effect of this recording reflects a surer _artistic_ whole, I feel, than
what we hear in the Kubelik!  That is a headline in itself, I feel,
since the Kubelik set, purely as a performance, has always seemed one of
the finest artistic achievements in the discography anyway -- and now,
artistically, the Toscanini tops it.  Janowitz and Konya's peaks in the
Kubelik may sparkle even more than Reining and Noort with Toscanini, but
Reining and Noort are never less than good, while Nissen seems somewhat
more at ease in Sachs's skin than Stewart is.  His stalwart
interpretation is welcome, even though it may not have quite the
haunting autumnal insights of the very greatest in this part.  Best of
all, unlike many Wagner performances from this period, this performance
is uncut.

There remains the matter of sound quality.  There are places where this
new restoration of the Toscanini reminds me of early 1950s mono!  Since
both the studio Kna and the second Kempe are also in 1950s mono, and yet
their top three principals are not as consistent as in the Toscanini
while the overall cohesiveness of these two studio sets is still superb
enough nevertheless to warrant their being placed in the very front rank
of all available Meistersingers, then, at the least, the Toscanini too,
with its occasionally-as-good-sound and generally stronger trio leading
the cast, deserves equal consideration.

The Kubelik, though, has truly excellent sound altogether (and I've only
heard it in the supposedly inferior MYTO!!).  Its distinguishing
characteristic then is that it is the most revealing and well-prepared
reading of the score available in modern stereo.  That puts it in a very
special niche.  No question.  Neither the Toscanini, the studio Kna, nor
the second Kempe can match that.


Part II


Out of roughly thirty readily available Meistersingers, there are now, I
feel, ten competitive entries.

[in chronological order]
1.  In 1936, from MUSIC & ARTS, we have a "live" Met broadcast,
featuring Friedrich Schorr, Elisabeth Rethberg and Rene Maison, under
Artur Bodanzky.  This is a lively, thoroughly engaging performance with
vivid characterizations and wonderful singing throughout.  Schorr's
warm, consoling vocal "face" for this role, his always lively
imagination and mercurial projection of the character's many moods, plus
his caressing vocalism, place his Sachs in a class by itself.  One feels
one is privy to Wagner's own imagination in Schorr's reading.  A
treasure, which we are highly privileged to hear nearly seventy years
after it took place!  The rest of the principals are nearly at the same
exalted level, and Bodanzky's conducting is keen and lyrical.  The cons
here are fair sound only and dozens of cuts in the performing edition
the Met was using at the time.

2.  In 1937, from ANDANTE, there is the Toscanini set, which I've
already covered, and which has the advantage of almost as strong a cast
as in #1 and heard in significantly better sound and uncut.

3.  In the early '40s, under Abendroth, we have a lively performance
featuring the other great Sachs, Paul Schoeffler, in his absolute prime.
 Most of the other principals, including the underrecorded Hilde
Scheppan as Eva, sound fine as well.  This is also in good sound.  If
you find it hard to enjoy Schorr's Sachs in compromised sound, here's a
chance to enjoy uncut the entire work with a Sachs, Paul Schoeffler, who
also dominates with almost as lively and beatiful an interpretation as
anything you hear in Schorr.  Enjoying Sachs's music in this way, uncut
and in good sound, places this set in a class of its own.  Where I find
this one wanting -- and some may demur -- is in Ludwig Suthaus's
Walther.  It is clear that Suthaus is still in his youthful prime, but I
find the role a bad fit.  However fresh his instrument, too much of the
high-lying music emerges in an effortful manner, IMO, and heard through
two or more playings, this can sometimes cast a pall over continued
enjoyment of the performance as a whole -- for me, anyway.  Another
aspect that sometimes bothers me a bit less, although I deeply respect
and can readily understand those who might find it much more troubling,
is the period and country in which this performance takes place: Nazi
Germany.  For some, this aspect can make people's blood run cold.  And I
can't say I'm ready to blame them.  Ultimately, though, it's tenor
inadequacies that, IMO, relegate this to being merely a strong entry
rather than one of the very best.

4.  In 1949, under Jochum, we have, from Munich, one of the liveliest
readings of all.  The third great Sachs, Hans Hotter, leads the cast.
His Sachs may be the most insightful of all, while vocally he tires
somewhat in the closing moments.  Treptow is heard in his absolute
prime, and I must say I enjoy his usually musical and well-interpreted
Walther.  No question his is not the bright easy kind of tenor best
heard in this role.  But I rarely find him off-putting here (the way I
do Suthaus).  Kupper's Eva, though, I do -- find off-putting, that is.
An entirely unsympathetic vocal "face", IMO, registering far too much
effort in one of the most deftly written roles Wagner ever conceived.
What a shame.  Jochum's reading is delightful and deserves an article in
itself!  Nothing is missed in a brilliant traversal.  The vivid
goings-on in every scene have the effect of animated conversation
throughout, precisely what the earliest conductors who learned this
opera from Wagner himself were consistently praised for.  This
conversational quality is the touchstone of the very greatest
Meistersinger conductors, and Jochum has it for days!  What a
revelation.  If not for his Eva............

5.  The same lively conversational quality triumphs in Karajan's first
set, "live" from Bayreuth, 1951.  In fact, in many ways, this is the
most thoroughly amusing interpretation as well.  The humor in the work
is always brought out effortlessly and naturally.  Edelmann's Sachs is
more in the Nissen mold than most of his distinguished predecessors.
But one salutes a vocal resiliency that is even greater than
Nissen's(!), reaching the final moments with untiring resonance and
vocal line.  Schwarzkopf's Eva is also heard at its very best (possibly
the best reading on disc?).  The con here (there's always one:-( ) is
Hans Hopf's Walther.  IMO, his ungainly pummeling of this music is
simply unacceptable.  He may have a somewhat stronger vocal resiliency
than Suthaus, for instance, but his approach and voice is less
attractive.  I really cannot take to him, and sincere regrets to any
Hopf fans who may be reading this.  That said, for a lively, amusing and
well-directed performance, one could do a lot worse than this.

6.  From 1950/'51, on DECCA/LONDON, we have, under Hans Knappertsbusch,
the first set made in the recording studio.  Surprisingly, the sound is
relatively thin and undernourished.  It's hardly inadequate, merely not
up to what one would have expected from DECCA/LONDON at the time.  That
said, this Kna reading is enthralling from beginning to end.  Again, the
conversational quality is truly caught.  The unforced lyricism in much
of the performance also achieves a naturalness that may be unique in the
discography.  And we have Paul Schoeffler's superb Sachs.  Here, he may
not be as fresh-voiced as for Abendroth, but he is still in quite good
control (with his vocal flexibility still sufficient for the divisions
in the "Euch macht ihr's leicht"), and the sheer musicality and keenness
of his Sachs are as welcome as ever.  And he is in better company than
for Abendroth.  Gueden's Eva is a marvel and epitomizes the gemutlich
qualities of most of Kna's principals, and, for a wonder, we even have
primo tenore Anton Dermota delivering the most lilting David on disc!
For Walther, we rehear Gunther Treptow, two years older than for Jochum
-- and sometimes sounding older than that in Act III.  The rehearsal
scene with Sachs in the cobbler shop is occasionally disconcerting and
does not wear well.  Elsewhere, he's not that objectionable, IMO, but he
is simply not as natural-sounding as for Jochum.  If there's a flaw in
this set, it would be that rehearsal scene.  Aside from that, this may
be the most enthralling Meistersinger I've yet heard.

7.  In 1952, we are back to a "live" performance.  This time, it's
Bayreuth, and in the pit is, once more, Hans Knappertsbusch.  This is an
even greater reading from him than we hear in DECCA/LONDON's recording
studios!  His cast is not quite at the same exalted level, but it's
rarely bad.  Edelmann repeats his accomplished Sachs, and this recording
affords a rare opportunity to sample Lisa Della Casa's Eva: a bewitching
Eva, and one of the most sympathetic available.  This was, of course,
the same Bayreuth production as the Karajan a year before, so we
shouldn't be surprised, though disappointed, to find Hopf repeating his
wearying Walther.  This recording showcases, all told, a wonderful
reading of the score from Kna -- possibly the finest reading from anyone
on disc save Wilhelm Furtwaengler's available with a dismal Grade-B cast
during the war -- though this Bayreuth set's cast is not of the same
high rank as Kna's fine studio effort.

8.  From the mid-'50s, on EMI, we have the last of the great thoroughly
conversational readings: Kempe's second Meistersinger is as inspired in
this regard as Jochum, the young Karajan, or Knappertsbusch -- and Kempe
has a genuine warmth all his own.  His cast is generally excellent as
well, and I can understand why many regard this as the best set of all.
 Frantz's Sachs may not be the most perceptive ever, but he is strong
enough in the role to equal (almost) a Nissen or an Edelmann, IMO, and
Gruemmer's Eva sports a lovely vocal quality and the inborn vividness of
a true actress.  When luminaries like Gustav Neidlinger, Gottlob Frick,
and Hermann Prey (as the Nightwatchman!!!!!!!!!!), and so on, are heard
in supporting roles, one has to acknowledge this set as something very
special indeed.  Rudolf Schock's tenor voice is more suited to this role
than that of some of his predecessors like Suthaus or Treptow, but I
stand in a minority in that I find the strain heard in Schock's singing
even more disconcerting than Treptow's on the studio Kna.  As I say, I
recognize this as a minority opinion, but I feel that, ultimately,
Schock's occasional struggles simply compromise the phrasing more than
do Treptow's, the latter seeming marginally more musical to me.  Schock
still seems more attractive in this role, though, than Hopf.

9.  From the mid-'60s comes the Kubelik set, which I've already covered
in Part I.  I would like to add here that I wholeheartedly admire the
warmth and naturalness of Kubelik's music-making, but that the Kubelik
reading -- more perhaps because of the vocally flamboyant qualities of
most of Kubelik's principals than because of Kubelik himself -- does not
have as universally conversational a quality as some other choice sets,
veering more toward the oratorical, though not necessarily in a bad way.
 However, this set does have just enough of the conversational to
qualify as one of the finest recordings available.

10.  From 1995, on DECCA/LONDON, we have, in Solti's second
Meistersinger recording, quite the most consistently musical cast heard
in this score since 1937 and Arturo Toscanini.  Van Dam's Sachs may not
have the rolling orotund vocal quality of the greatest bass-baritones
heard in the part, but Van Dam's refinement and insight, his sense of
the poetic, and, above all, his invariably disciplined shaping of the
music, stamp him as one of the fine ones, IMO.  I recognize this take on
my part as not necessarily a prevailing view.  Some believe that Van Dam
brings out too much of the poet at the expense of the cobbler.  But I
believe that the cobbler is not necessarily short-changed, merely placed
in a less conspicuous perspective.  (Sometimes, I believe that too many
others with the requisite burly tones have inadvertently short-changed
the poet faaaaaaar too much, BTW!!!)  And in a way, Van Dam's emphasis
may be thanks to Van Dam's own intelligence and self-awareness vocally.
Recognizing that his tones are not as burly as others, he may have
deliberately decided to make Sachs _the_ philosopher of the
Mastersingers circle.  Of course, Schorr and Schoeffler already do this
to an extent (listeners steeped in later and gruffer readings tend to
overlook this), but Van Dam is the first to do this so overtly in modern
times.  And I welcome this as a necessary corrective.  The musically
disciplined quality in Van Dam is typical of everyone else in the cast.
 Mattila and Heppner are clearly a bel canto pair of lovers, and one
has to wonder whether anyone has ever sung Pogner with more "Golden-Age"
sound than Rene Pape.  Solti's reading, though, is the antithesis of the
conversational Karajan, of Kempe, what-have-you.  This Meistersinger is
_serious_, with a high sense of purpose and decorum in all its
characters.  It is not unfelt at all, but what the characters say here
is rarely offhand or intimate in the way we hear from others.  These are
characters reflecting a consistent aristocracy of spirit that can
sometimes be touching and sometimes be distancing.  It's not the way I'd
always want to hear the score, but it's not necessarily wrong for all
that.  An interesting alternative view, complemented by music-making as
superb as we can ever expect to hear.


Part III


Summary, conclusions, [subjective] rankings:

Overall recording assessments:

In the top tier:

Toscanini; studio Knappertsbusch; Kubelik.

Of these three, the Toscanini has the best overall cast, the Kna is the
best conducted, and the Kubelik has the best sound.  But essentially,
they each give huge satisfaction, and I wouldn't be without any of these.

In the second tier:

Kempe (his second); Solti (his second).

Both these sets I've occasionally slotted in at the top tier in the past
-- and may do so again;-)

On the second Kempe, Schock's intrinsic type of tenor is apt enough for
Walther to complement -- to an extent -- the sheer rightness of
everything else in this set.  If it was just a matter of Schock's
intrinsic sound and not also a troubling matter of what he _does_ -- or
seems ultimately unable to do -- with that sound, this Kempe set could
well be the very finest of all: fully as warm as Kubelik, just as
conversational as the studio Kna, more consistently sung than the
Toscanini (putting aside Kempe's Schock).

The second Solti is such a feast for the ears, both vocally and
sonically, if not for the heart, that there have been times when I've
wondered when Wagner's music has ever sounded so beautiful.  But with
the Toscanini now being made available in at least respectable sound, if
not comparable to the superb sonics in this Solti, and with the
Toscanini boasting just as fine a cast overall with superior conducting
to boot, the Solti with its similar range of virtues and (somewhat) less
engaged conducting (IMO) now gets slotted in second.  This is certainly
one clear instance in which the advent of the ANDANTE Toscanini has
changed substantively the face of the Meistersinger discography, in my view.

Just to clarify, I wouldn't think it necessarily unfortunate were one to
choose either the second Kempe or the second Solti as one's introduction
to Meistersinger.

In the third tier:

Bodanzky; Abendroth; "live" Jochum; Karajan (his first); "live" Kna.

These are, for me, the so-called "niche" recordings.

The Bodanzky is the most superbly sung of all.  The Abendroth boasts the
most superb uncut and decently recorded Hans Sachs.  The "live" Jochum
is the most vividly characterized.  The first Karajan is the most genial
and amusing.  The "live" Kna is the most superbly conducted.

Our understanding of Wagner's score would be the poorer without each and
every one of these sets, but I might still demur at choosing any single
one of them as one's introduction to Wagner's masterpiece.  One
shouldn't, it strikes me, get introduced to Meistersinger via cuts and
very ho-hum sound (the Bodanzky), one's first Meistersinger should not
have as effortful a Walther as the unsuitable Suthaus or the ungainly
Hopf (however young Suthaus is with Abendroth and however sparkling the
humor be on the first Karajan or inspired the conducting be on the
"live" Kna), and one shouldn't have as one's first Eva a vocal persona
who seems older than the Magdalene(!) (the "live" Jochum).

I admire these because there are certain things that emerge more
distinctively on them than anywhere else, but they're only recommended
after one has already learned the opera well via one of the other five
sets cited further up (in fact, I don't now own either the Abendroth or
the "live" Kna -- that could change, of course).


Hans Sachs rankings (subjective, of course):


1. Friedrich Schorr

2. Paul Schoeffler on Abendroth

3. Paul Schoeffler on the studio Kna

4. Hans Hotter

5. Jose Van Dam

6. Otto Edelmann on the "live" Kna

7. Otto Edelmann on the first Karajan

8. Hans Hermann Nissen

9. Ferdinand Frantz

10. Thomas Stewart


Eva rankings:


1. Elisabeth Schwarzkopf

2.  Elisabeth Rethberg/Hilde Gueden/Lisa Della Casa/Elisabeth
Gruemmer/Gundula Janowitz/Karita Mattila

3. Maria Reining/Hilde Scheppan

4. A. Kupper


Walther rankings:


1. Sandor Konya

2. Ben Heppner

3. Rene Maison/Henk Noort

4. Gunther Treptow on the "live" Jochum

5. Gunther Treptow on the studio Kna

6. Rudolf Schock

7. Ludwig Suthaus

8. Hans Hopf


Conductor rankings:


1. Hans Knappertsbusch "live"

2. Rudolf Kempe

3. Eugen Jochum

4. Hans Knappertsbusch (in the studio)

5. Herbert von Karajan (his first)

6. Rafael Kubelik

7. Artur Bodanzky

8. Arturo Toscanini

9. Herman Abendroth

10. Georg Solti (his second)


Finally, sound quality:


1. Kubelik; Solti (his second)

2. Kempe; von Karajan (his first)

3.  Toscanini; Abendroth; "live" Jochum; Knappertsbusch (studio);
Knappertsbusch "live"

4. Bodanzky


Hoping this may prove useful to some.


Cheers,

Geoffrey Riggs
www.operacast.com




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