Re: Cut and paste in Cygwin XEmacs

>>>>> "Rick" == Rick Rankin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    Rick> they *first* make sure that their Cygwin installation is
    Rick> completely up to date.

That makes sense.

My problem is that as a non-Windows user/developer I can only really
recommend what I have been told definitely works.  I find Windows very
unfriendly to support, because every time I get close to the answer to
the question I'm really asking, Windows Help says "Please contact your
System Administrator"!  I think Microsoft is trying to sell me an MCSE
correspondence course.  :-(  And the XEmacs Windows-specific docs are
not all that much better.

    Rick> Perhaps even install a snapshot cygwin1.dll because problems
    Rick> are being fixed all the time.

Problem is, if they go beyond current release, APIs might change,
right?  My understanding is that a lot of the problem with XEmacs on
Cygwin (and Windows XP, for that matter) have to do with use of older
APIs that didn't really work right, so they've been replaced.

    Rick> the Cygwin people don't keep old distributions around, so
    Rick> they're pretty hard to come by.

Shoulda figured that.  OK, scratch that recommendation.

    Rick> Well, I've been wanting to take a more active role, at least
    Rick> in terms of finding and fixing problems. I don't know if I'd
    Rick> have time to work on new features, though. Hmm... guess I'll
    Rick> have to think about learning lisp ;-)

Believe me, just having a reasonably experienced user/developer,
somebody who's actually been working with XEmacs on the platform over
the last couple of years, speaking up in c.e.x and other XEmacs
channels is a _major_ contribution.

Andy and Ben are very good at what they do, but neither has a
support-type personality, and Andy's stuff (most of the GUI,
especially on Windows) is basically undocumented outside of the
sources.  As is the netinstaller -- after the platform changes (new
Cygwin, Windows XP), I'd say one of our biggest problems on Windows is
that people's packages installations get wedged because the
netinstaller and XEmacs's native package management disagree slightly
on how things are done.

While I can't give you a shopping list at the moment, if you want to
invest some of your spare time in XEmacs, hang out a bit on c.e.x and
xemacs-beta (I haven't checked recently, but I think most of the
traffic from xemacs-winnt moved to -beta), and help us build up
Google-able archives of Windows wisdom.

Of course if you can help us with the XEmacs vs. Cygwin 1.5/Windows XP
issues, that would be really great.

Thanks for posting!

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