Re: So called "copyright" pictures

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mike Harding wrote:

>>>>Imagine a record shop that let you take in CD's to copy on
>>>>their CD machine.
>>> 
>>> What about a CD of you singing along to yourself playing your
>>> own guitar in your own lounge room which was recorded by a
>>> professional who you had paid to make the recording?
>>
>>If you had agreed beforehand that the recording engineer owned
>>the copyright, then he would own the copyright.
> 
> And why ever would you agree to that?

Because I didn't want to pay extra for the copyrights and
negatives?  For Pete's sake, _read_ the contract when you hire
a photographer.  If you want to buy the copyrights and
negatives, they'll sell them to you.  You will have to pay for
them, since you're not hiring the guy as an employee who's
creating a work for hire.

> It's a ridiculous scenario.

Why so?  It's was the deal that was agreed to beforehand.

>>If you wanted the copyrights and negatives, you should have
>>paid for that up front.
> 
> You did.

No you didn't.  It says so quite plainly when you sign the
agreement.

> Given that the photographer does not know if clients will
> order further copies he must cover his _full_ costs from the
> original contract.

Just because you say so?

> You're not stealing anything, this isn't
> like making a copy of a Beatles CD. Don't confuse the law with
> right and wrong.

You agreed beforehand that the photographer got to keep the
negaties and the copyrights.  If you welch on the deal, you're
doing something wrong whether or not it's illegal.

> If I pay someone to paint a portrait of me I expect to receive
> the original and not a copy,

If that's what you and the painter agreed upon, that's fine.
If you agreed that the painter retains the copyright, then
that's fine too.

What you "expect" isn't legally binding on others -- despite
your wishes that it be so.

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