Re: Wrong Procedure

"Dave Ulmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> "Rick Craik" <rick@@icebergideas..com> wrote in message
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> > "Dave Ulmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > >                          Wrong Procedure
> > >
> > >  Knowledge (that stuff that is written in books) comes in various
> > > flavors or types. The main types True and False are obvious to
> > > anyone who has ever lied or been lied to.
> >

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> > [...] I would say that knowledge is not
> > "that stuff that is written in books". But from your perspective,
> > information in the book, plus the human ability to understand the
> > book comprise finding that there is knowledge in books.
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> Actually information is just another type of knowledge like true, false,
> and procedural. Information is a carrier of knowledge. A book may
> contain knowledge about boat building, this knowledge is carried to
> the reader via words written in the English language.

But this is just a gloss over to any points I have raised by saying that one
type of knowledge can contain another type of knowledge. Now I would
have to raise issue with "carried via", and then "carrier", and then
"contain" and so on.

> This stream of words is the
> information that informs you about the knowledge of boat building.

Would you like to discuss what "inform" can mean?
Let me try an example of informing you:

    Glossary - list or dictionary of technical or special words.

    Gloss - A deceptively attractive appearance

    Gloss over - seek to conceal, esp. by mentioning only briefly

These lines come from a page in a book, I am counting on
your abilities to gain knowledge here and my abilities to apply
knowledge via the information presented. If either of our
abilities are failing, then there would be no knowledge passing;
therefore information is not some kind knowledge. Knowledge
is contained by other knowledge in the sense that it has to be
cracked open (rediscovered by the second party) with other
knowledge abilities.

Regards,
Rick