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> > All phenomena occur in the present. You're trying to build something > on a foundation that doesn't support it. Well, since this phenomenon is pivotal to subjective experience, then clearly a proper theory of mind must take temporal physics into account. The only clear force that animates the universe is the HUP, but this is something that computational models of mind don't take into account, and is why I feel they are inadequate. But I'm open to suggestions -- if you have some line of reasoning that is more fruitful, then by all means let's go into its details. Then again, I've pretty much said all I can about QM in regards to consciousness. There's only so far one can go just by thinking about it; proper experiment and detailed physical research is called for. My kingdom for a suitably outfitted laboratory. Ray
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