Re: Alice gets Hollywood Walk of Fame star

------Back to more personal prejudices and knee-jerk reactions without
thought. 

> It's great to know that the Walk Of Fame will always 
> be a part of Hollywood in years to come and that Alice is part of it. Alice > > 
> could 
> have/should have gotten his star back in 1978 when he saved the 
> Hollywood sign.  I'm not sure why it didn't happen at that time.
> 
------No argument there. A standing, lasting monument is something to
be remembered by.
> 
> Not at all. If anything, it RAISES the bar.  Britney is not a star.  She 
> is a SUPERSTAR.  She's sold more tickets and albums at the age of TWENTY 
> ONE than most artists do their whole career.

----- So did The Backstreet Boys in 1999 set the record for highest
sales......not on the walk

  The Walk of *Fame* is for 
> *stars*.  She has *fame* and she's a *star*.  To think otherwise is 
> silly.  She is a MUCH bigger star than some others that have gotten 
> stars.  So I'll say it again, she raises the bar.

------My personal prejudices and knee-jerk reaction here is the
acheiving of this "fame and stardome". By the age of twenty one she
had pushed through much, still I belive that this was only acheived by
massive and extensive mass marketing making her a popular product-not
a bona fide star.
> 
> >The Coop should have gotten it "Years Ago".
> 
> True.  But it doesn't really matter now, does it?  Nice that he's 
> getting it.  And if anything, might be kind of nice that he's getting it 
> at a point where a lot of people's awareness of Alice is low and they 
> don't realize how active in rock n roll he still is.  Right?

--------Yes I think it matters.... 
 Why did Ozzy get it at the time he did?? In the list he got it
because his recordings... Convenient that his TV show was extremely
popular at that time. And as of now that is what the younger
generation remember him by, not his music.
Back to Britney vs Alice`s star. 
Perhaps this would mean more to us fans if this would have come in a
more Alice focued era. Something to gloat about. Like "Our man is on
top and here is the star to prove it"
Right now it`s "another star in the walk, and about time" feeling. 

I don`t think Alice`s awareness is that low at the moment.
(Scandinavian opinion) People are very interested in his upcomming
Europe tour.

> >At
> >least he earned it. Why did she get it anyway???
> 
> 
> Have you been living under a rock?  Do you think the stars should only 
> go to people that you like or just to people that are over the age of 
> 50???   
------No, only to male TV-stars between the age of 30-35.....of course
not!!!!

She's got a star because she MORE meets the qualifications.  She 
> has made a significant mark and contribution to the world of 
> entertainment and has participated in community and charity events.  The 
> idea of the Walk of Fame is not just to acknowledge the accomplishments 
> of various people in the industry (including behind the scenes people)

-----Ok, valid point. But still I see the star to be the artists
acheivement, not the marketing aparatus.
 
> but it is to promote Hollywood itself and to boost tourism.  Someone 
> like Britney is exactly what they want for all of that.   Very simple, 
> actually.

-----------But if it is to boost tourism why would it be important
today if a lot of people's awareness of Alice is low. Again...wouldn`t
it have mattered more at an earlier stage??

> >The years most
> >commersialized product ??

> That's a really naive comment.  You could say the same thing about 
> someone like Tom Cruise.  Are you going to say that Tom Cruise shouldn't 
> be on the Walk Of Fame?  Funny thing is...that's the exact same phrase 
> that a lot of people and critics used about Alice Cooper in 1973 and 
> "Billion Dollar Babies" being a "commercialized product".  Ironic, ain't 
> it???  A lot of people would have said giving Alice a star back in 1973 
> would have lowered the bar when it comes to prestige.  It's all a matter 
> of logic.  Not personal prejudices and knee-jerk reactions without 
> thought.

--------- Actually that part was a bit of a joke, but to follow up;
My comment was intended to fire up the issue on Alice tanktop shirt
with "Britney wants me...dead" -again a joke

But bottom line is that I still think this star should have come much
earlier and gotten much more attention. Hell knows he deserve that.
Ok, call Spears a superstar. Still my personal prejudices and
knee-jerk reactions without
thought is that she is not...how to put this.....true. She sells what
the marketers want to sell, not like "the Coop" wich gives of himself
and what he wants the world to hear.

Still...many good points from you.....

Have fun.

May we all stay crazy......