Re: Youssou N'Dour: Living In The Ground

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Jeff Rubard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> "Michael Leahy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > Are you sure you replied to the right thread? If so, I'll simply repeat
that
> > I don't understand what you are trying to tell me, even less so with
this
> > reply. So there's no need to thrown the book at me.
> >
> > M
>
> Yes, and that's another gratuitous remark.  As for my comments, you
> put "them" in quotation marks, and you get what you get for that
> set-up.  Please, no more Rogerian psychotherapy.
>
> Jeff Rubard
>
> > Jeff Rubard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > > "Michael Leahy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > > > Like Andy, I'm not too sure what is the point being made. Some of it
> >  sounds
> > > > interesting, but calling "them" (Check D and who?) "rather
eclectically
> > > > traditionalist in terms of their perceptions of the African
community"
> >  loses
> > > > me.
> > > >
> > > > But there is some great hip-hop coming from Africa, for those those
that
> > > > fancy some "ecletically contemporary perceptions".
> > > >
> > > > M
> > >
> > > This is fucking lame.  Firstly, you're the one dragging race in (not a
> > > worthwhile concern with respect to contemporary Africa, as the real
> > > problems can now just as easily be located with Africans), and very
> > > stupidly as these are careful portrayals (I am not treating Chuck D
> > > like a stepchild, or perhaps I wasn't in another article and I am in
> > > another sense now).  I'm not into musical eclecticism, I'm rather
> > > absurdly "purist" with respect to genres (Teengenerate was a lot
> > > better than the Strokes, dude); and I already mentioned a *dancehall*
> > > orientation as the contemporary sound I know of.  In other words,
> > > that's (obviously) not all there is to this music but the politics is
> > > a dimension "casual appreciation" often *obscures* *for other people*.
> > >
> > > Jeff Rubard
> > >
> > >
> > > > Jeff Rubard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > > > > "Papa Andy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >  news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > > > > > Afrobeat is actually a term used by Fela to describe his music
> > > > > > to the African music fan N'Dour and Fela are as you suggest,
world's
> >  apart
> > > > > > but still represent the higher levels of modern African music
> > > > > > I was not really sure what points you were trying to make and
didn't
> >  see
> >  the
> > > > > > value of dragging in socialism and Chuck D
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A
> > > > >
> > > > > Andy, Andy, Andy, thank you for the comment but I can't let this
go.
> > > > > Politics are more or less important for those artists
respectively,
> > > > > and I was using Chuck D as a familiar example for US audiences to
draw
> > > > > out the point that both of them are rather eclectically
traditionalist
> > > > > in terms of their perceptions of the African community, but
worldly
> > > > > and modern enough for all that ("I.T.T." is a damn perceptive
analysis
> > > > > of globalization as we have come to understand it -- a force
almost
> > > > > outside space and time).